professional möbius stripper ([info]riverflame) wrote,
@ 2006-01-29 00:02:00
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The more I look around Wikipedia the lamer I find it truly is.

There are four books listed under "Literature" for "History of the United States." The last three are the textbooks we're using for APUSH - Johnson's "A History of the American People," Zinn's "A People's History of the United States," and Kennedy/Bailey/Cohen's "The American Pageant" 12e. Yeah, 12th edition exactly. What does that tell you about the people who wrote the article? Kids who were in love with Wikipedia and had taken APUSH. Yeah, the period-summaries look like textbook to me. I wouldn't care, except I do know there are more than four books out there on American history. It's just silly.

Mainly I'm frustrated because I didn't bring Johnson and I'm finding I want him, so I can find that bit about America being JUST LIKE Rome. Also, what Hamilton tried and failed to grow on that plot of land.

Or I could just make shit up and not have a catchy byline for my fic. I think I'll go for that. It's already full of bolonga; what harm is a little more going to do?

ETA:

"Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike." - Hamilton

"There is no act, however virtuous, for which ingenuity may not find some bad motive." - Jefferson

"Good wine is a necessity of life for me." - Jefferson (attributed)

"A garden, you know, is a very usual refuge of a disappointed politician. Accordingly, I have purchased a few acres about nine miles from town, have built a house, and am cultivating a garden." - Hamilton, in a letter to Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (29 December 1802)

"Hamilton is really a colossus... without numbers, he is a host unto himself." - Thomas Jefferson

- Hamilton's failure of a garden

- Jefferson's "three greatest men" scene, with Hamilton's Caesar rebuttal.

- muttonhead Washington

- Jefferson professed to admire Hamilton's character in his Anas

REAL TRUE FACTS: Jefferson was self-contradictory; Hamilton was a tease and not strictly honest; both were prejudiced against Aaron Burr (if you ask historian Roger G. Kennedy); both Hamilton and Jefferson were rather passionate, but Hamilton was extroverted to all appearances and impulsive, whereas Jefferson thought very carefully about his presentation and kept to himself.




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[info]themis
2006-01-29 01:29 pm UTC (link)
Do you want what Hamilton tried to grow? I have the Chernow bio, and it's probably listed there because Ron Chernow clearly wants Hamilton. I have a vague recollection of cabbage. No wonder his farm failed.

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[info]riverflame
2006-01-29 11:05 pm UTC (link)
I've got Johnson around now, so I can go find it, but thanks anyway. I think it *was* cabbage, or turnips, or something lame like that. (Is the Chernow bio wonderful? It sounds sort of wonderful!)

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[info]themis
2006-01-29 11:54 pm UTC (link)
I don't know if wonderful is the word I'd use. It's sort of awe-inspiring, because I seriously think he didn't leave ANYTHING out, but then again he's sort of drooling or something at the very thought of Hamilton and not like I do either. Again, he didn't leave ANYTHING out. I have a special place in my heart for it because my copy is signed, but in general I like the Richard Brookhiser bio a little better. It's more concise, less "HAMILTON WAS DA BOMB!!!!1"

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[info]riverflame
2006-01-30 02:17 am UTC (link)
It sounds funny, then :)) Have you seen Flexner's The Young Hamilton? I only read the first couple pages before I had to return it, but it looked pretty good.

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[info]themis
2006-01-30 02:23 am UTC (link)
I've never been able to find it, but I want to read the full extent of his take on the Hamilton/Laurens letters because I hear he thought they were pretty gay.

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[info]riverflame
2006-01-30 02:25 am UTC (link)
He had a whole chapter on that, entitled "A Romantic Friendship" or something of the sort :D

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[info]losselen
2006-01-29 08:52 pm UTC (link)
Bailey & co. wrote the worst textbook ever. EVER.

"England waived the rules and ruled the waves." "Everyone was flexing their political muscles." "On the horizon, clouds of economic turmoil were gathering."

What the fuck?

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[info]riverflame
2006-01-29 11:08 pm UTC (link)
I love it, man! It's the most entertaining textbook ever. Weird, thus entertaining. Otherwise I'd die of boredom trying to get through it.

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